Legislature(2019 - 2020)BARNES 124

02/27/2020 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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+ HB 221 STATE RECOGNITION OF TRIBES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 193 SECOND VERSE OF ALASKA'S STATE SONG TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                HB 221-STATE RECOGNITION OF TRIBES                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:03:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 221,  "An Act providing for  state recognition                                                               
of federally  recognized tribes;  and providing for  an effective                                                               
date."  [Before the committee was CSHB 221(TRB).]                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:04:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHUCK KOPP,  Alaska State  Legislature, as  prime                                                               
sponsor  of  HB 221,  first  introduced  his staff,  Ken  Truitt,                                                               
before  addressing  the  proposed  legislation.    He  then  said                                                               
Alaska's  Native people  have  been here  for  many thousands  of                                                               
years, and  CSHB 221(TRB)  would give the  honor and  respect and                                                               
self-determination  that  any people  "cry  out  for."   He  said                                                               
Alaska Natives make up 20  percent of the state's population, and                                                               
the proposed  legislation would ensure that  "Alaska's indigenous                                                               
people  are no  longer invisible  in the  narrative of  our state                                                               
history."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP,  regarding sovereignty, said, "We  can't, on                                                               
one hand, pretend  that tribes don't exist but on  the other hand                                                               
insist that they waive their  sovereign immunity before the state                                                               
will partner with them ...."   He remarked upon the great size of                                                               
Alaska  and opined  that  Alaska needs  to  collaborate with  its                                                               
tribes to  overcome significant challenges related  to education,                                                               
public safety, and healthcare, and  said the proposed legislation                                                               
is a  move in  that direction.   He  acknowledged that  change is                                                               
difficult  in   that  it  encompasses  emotional   and  spiritual                                                               
dimensions.  He  added, "But it's time that  we acknowledged that                                                               
tribes are in  the best position to deliver many  of the services                                                               
the state  has not  been able to  successfully deliver  over many                                                               
decades  and that  these are  Alaskans  that are  closest to  the                                                               
people to deliver the services in their region."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:07:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP said he would  address "issues that may cause                                                               
some to  stumble."  The  first is  the issue of  granting special                                                               
privileges to  tribal people that  non-tribal people do  not get.                                                               
He said the issue of state  sovereignty sometimes gets in the way                                                               
of  consideration of  tribal recognition.   In  terms of  what is                                                               
special, he proffered that from  a tribal perspective that notion                                                               
evokes  questions  about having  one's  land  taken away  without                                                               
consent,  being told  one cannot  remain in  a certain  place and                                                               
must  relocate when  there  has  been no  declaration  of war  or                                                               
hostilities, and  having a tax  imposed on villages  in Southeast                                                               
Alaska.   He  said  he  views "special"  as  the U.S.  Government                                                               
making good on  its solemn promises to the  indigenous people for                                                               
the taking  of land and  imposed relocations,  as well as  on the                                                               
promise of  providing for the  health, education, and  welfare of                                                               
the indigenous people in return  for them having to abandon their                                                               
claims to the  land.  He said there were  many social, political,                                                               
and  property relational  changes,  which took  Europe "over  300                                                               
centuries  to absorb."   He  compared  that to  the rapid  change                                                               
brought  to  indigenous  people  in  the  U.S.  and  said  it  is                                                               
incredible that those changes have  not destroyed them.  He cited                                                               
[the third  paragraph] uttered by President  Richard Nixon during                                                               
his  1970  Special  Address  on Indian  Affairs,  which  read  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     But the  story of  the Indian  in America  is something                                                                    
     more  than  the  record  of the  white  man's  frequent                                                                    
     aggression,  broken  agreements, intermittent  remorse,                                                                    
     and  prolonged  failure.    It  is  a  record  also  of                                                                    
     endurance,  of survival,  of adaptation  and creativity                                                                    
     in the face of overwhelming  obstacles.  It is a record                                                                    
     of enormous contributions to this  country - to its art                                                                    
     and culture, to  its strength and spirit,  to its sense                                                                    
     of history and its sense of purpose.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:11:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  reviewed that  before the  Revolutionary War                                                               
the  British  government had  left  colonies  to regulate  Indian                                                               
trade and land concessions, which  resulted in disparate policies                                                               
and approaches.   Under the Articles of  Confederation an attempt                                                               
was  made to  consolidate  these policies;  however, this  proved                                                               
unsuccessful.  He  explained that these failures  led directly to                                                               
Article I  Section 8  of the Constitution  of the  United States,                                                               
which  states that  Congress  shall have  the  power to  regulate                                                               
commerce with  foreign nations and  among the several  states and                                                               
with the Indian Tribes.  He  said it is significant that Congress                                                               
was given that  power, because a single  state, acting improperly                                                               
on  its own,  "might lead  to  needless wars  and compromise  the                                                               
interest of other states."  He said  11 of the 13 states voted to                                                               
ratify   the  Constitution,   agreeing   that  abdicating   their                                                               
sovereignty over  Indian affairs was  good and necessary  for the                                                               
success  of the  nation.   He stated  that the  erosion of  state                                                               
sovereignty  was  settled  at  the   time  the  Constitution  was                                                               
ratified, and [Alaska] "has harmed  itself as a state by fighting                                                               
against this idea for many years since statehood."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:14:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  pointed out the supporting  materials in the                                                               
committee  packet,   including  the  aforementioned   address  by                                                               
President  Nixon, a  supreme court  case,  Baker v.  John, and  a                                                             
memorandum  from  former  Attorney General  Jahna  Lindermuth  to                                                               
former  Governor Bill  Walker on  the legal  status of  tribes in                                                               
Alaska.  Alaska obtained statehood  during the termination era of                                                               
Indian policy  "when the  nation was  struggling with  that trust                                                               
relationship with tribes and walking  away from the treaties that                                                               
had long [been] established."   Under President Nixon, the nation                                                               
moved  into  the era  of  self-determination  and "honoring  that                                                               
trust relationship with federal tribes."   He said the court case                                                               
is when Alaska  "began turning from the idea  of terminating that                                                               
trust  relationship  to  embracing it"  and  recognizing  tribes'                                                               
existence.    The  memorandum  to Governor  Walker  is  when  the                                                               
executive branch recognized the existence of tribes in Alaska.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP explained  that even  with the  existence of                                                               
these  background materials,  the proposed  legislation is  still                                                               
necessary because while  it is the [Alaska]  Supreme Court's role                                                               
"to  declare  what   the  law  is  in  the  state,"   it  is  the                                                               
legislature's role to declare state  policy.  The purpose of CSHB
221(TRB), he said,  is to declare that Alaska will  no longer, as                                                               
a matter  of policy,  ignore the existence  of tribes  in Alaska;                                                               
that  it  is the  end  of  the  termination  era; and  that  that                                                               
thinking is part of the  state's policy.  Although not explicitly                                                               
stated  in the  proposed  legislation, this  means  the state  is                                                               
taking a  step toward  self-determination.   What that  will look                                                               
like on  the state level  will take a more  in-depth conversation                                                               
than  what  CSHB  221(TRB)  seeks   to  address,  he  said.    He                                                               
concluded,  "But the  conversation cannot  begin until  the state                                                               
stops and is  at least willing to acknowledge that  tribes are in                                                               
the  room with  us and  that  they have  a proper  place in  this                                                               
room."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:17:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN  TRUITT,  Staff,  Representative  Chuck  Kopp,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  on behalf  of Representative  Kopp, prime  sponsor,                                                               
offered a sectional  analysis of CSHB 221(TRB).   He said Section                                                               
1  was  added regarding  legislative  findings  and intent  about                                                               
indigenous  people's  history  of  being  in  Alaska  since  time                                                               
immemorial  and "the  legislature exercising  its policy  power."                                                               
The  operative provision  of the  bill is  now in  Section 5,  he                                                               
noted.   The provisions between  Sections 1 and 5  are conforming                                                               
and technical changes.   He drew attention to a  sentence on page                                                               
2, beginning  on line 27,  which read, "The state  recognizes the                                                               
special   and  unique   relationship  that   the  United   States                                                               
government has with federally  recognized tribes and specifically                                                               
recognizes the relationship between  the United States government                                                               
and federally  recognized tribes  in the state."   He  noted that                                                               
"special" and  "unique" are  words used  in the  previously cited                                                               
address  by  President  Nixon  and describe  the  nature  of  the                                                               
relationship  that  tribes have  in  the  country -  "recognition                                                               
being primarily a federal function."   The following sentence, he                                                               
noted, refers to  the Recognized Tribal List Act.   He said it is                                                               
clear  that CSHB  221(TRB) is  not seeking  to create  a separate                                                               
state  recognition   but  to   recognize  federal   function  and                                                               
recognition.   Mr. Truitt  referred to  the next  sentence, which                                                               
read,  "Nothing  in this  section  diminishes  the United  States                                                               
government's  trust   responsibility  or  other   obligations  to                                                               
federally recognized tribes in the  state or creates a concurrent                                                               
trust  relationship between  the state  and federally  recognized                                                               
tribes."    He  said  this language  is  important,  because  the                                                               
proposed legislation  should not be  read as "giving  the federal                                                               
government  an excuse  to end  that  relationship or  in any  way                                                               
diminish it."   Further, the bill  is not pointing to  any intent                                                               
of the State  of Alaska in "intending to create  a separate state                                                               
trust relationship  with tribes."   He clarified  that this  is a                                                               
federal issue that  the state is recognizing.   Mr. Truitt stated                                                               
that CSHB  221(TRB) would not  create any additional  rights that                                                               
tribes do not already possess.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:22:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  indicated  that  people  had  asked  what                                                               
effect CSHB 221(TRB) may have  regarding gambling.  He noted that                                                               
federally recognized tribes  [in the Lower 48] have  the power to                                                               
open casinos on their lands.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  echoed Mr. Truitt's previous  statement that                                                               
the  proposed legislation  would not  change any  standing rights                                                               
tribes currently have on tribal land or any existing authority.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:23:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KREISS-TOMKINS  referred   to  "the   millennium                                                               
agreement"  and asked  to hear  about  "the policy  juxtaposition                                                               
between what Governor  [Tony] Knowles did and what  the impact of                                                               
this bill would be ...."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:24:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TRUITT noted  that there would be presenters  who would cover                                                               
that, but offered  in brief that the  proposed legislation "would                                                               
not  make an  executive order  like that  unnecessary" but  would                                                               
prevent  a succeeding  administration  from  withdrawing such  an                                                               
executive order.   He explained, "So, we're not leaving  it up to                                                               
the executive branch to declare what the policy is."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:25:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN initiated invited testimony.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:25:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATASHA SINGH, General Counsel,  Tanana Chiefs Conference, as co-                                                               
presenter of a PowerPoint  presentation, entitled "Recognition of                                                               
Alaska Tribes," prefaced her presentation  by stating that Tanana                                                               
Chiefs  Conference is  a tribal  consortium  representing the  37                                                               
federally recognized tribes of Interior Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH directed attention to a  quote, which shows on slide 2,                                                               
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     "Before the  coming of the  Europeans, the  tribes were                                                                    
     self-governing sovereign  political communities." -John                                                                    
     v. Baker, Alaska Supreme Court                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  pointed out that "the  existence of a tribe  or tribal                                                               
government does  not require  federal determination,  and federal                                                               
sovereignty  does not  originate  with  the federal  government."                                                               
She continued:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The tribal form of government  is something that you or                                                                    
     I likely  can't comprehend,  mainly because we  are not                                                                    
     Native  language speakers.   ...  The Native  languages                                                                    
     really, really encompass  everything our government was                                                                    
     about.    Take  all  your  notions  of  government  and                                                                    
     economy  that you  learned in  college  and throw  them                                                                    
     out.   Tribal governments were  based on a rule  of law                                                                    
     determined by  the creator, the land,  and the animals.                                                                    
     Our  tribal governments  are religious  and spiritually                                                                    
     based, and that continues today.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Tribal   leaders   created    tribal   governments   in                                                                    
     reflection  of laws  of the  creator.   The present-day                                                                    
     tribes have  remnants of these  traditional governments                                                                    
     despite  hundreds  of   years  aimed  at  extinguishing                                                                    
     tribes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  said she has  been told  that today tribes  are tasked                                                               
simply with protecting the land and the children.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:28:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOY  ANDERSON, General  Counsel, Association  of Village  Council                                                               
Presidents,  as  co-presenter  of  the  PowerPoint  presentation,                                                               
having  related  that  the association  is  a  tribal  consortium                                                               
located in Southwest Alaska  representing 56 federally recognized                                                               
tribes, reported  that there are 573  federally recognized tribes                                                               
in the  U.S., almost  half of which  are in Alaska.   She  said a                                                               
federally  recognized  tribe  is  an American  Indian  or  Alaska                                                               
Native   tribal  entity   that  has   a  government-to-government                                                               
relationship  with the  U.S. described  as "a  domestic dependent                                                               
nation."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON discussed  the points  on  slide 3,  which read  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     What are Tribes?                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Domestic Dependent Nations                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Inherent  powers and  authorities with  self-governance                                                                    
     of internal  affairs, e.g.  type of  government; tribal                                                                    
     membership                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Tribes exercise  all powers,  unless those  powers have                                                                    
     been expressly limited by Congress                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Regulate  matters pertaining  to  tribal members,  e.g.                                                                    
     taxes, property, members' conduct                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Immune from lawsuits                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Tribes are  not state  or local  governments; political                                                                    
     subdivisions  or agencies  or instrumentalities  of the                                                                    
     federal or state governments; tax exempt organizations                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:30:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  brought attention to slides  4 and 5 and  gave a brief                                                               
history of the  Federal Indian Policy Period.  As  shown on slide                                                               
5, that period includes:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Colonial 1492-1820                                                                                                         
     Removal/Relocation 1820-1850                                                                                               
     Reservation/Treaty Making 1850-1887                                                                                        
     Allotment & Assimilation 1887-1934                                                                                         
     Indian Self-Government 1934-1953                                                                                           
     Termination 1953-196?                                                                                                      
     Self Determination 196?-Present                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH said the first  four policy periods were so detrimental                                                               
to  tribes  that "we  entered  into"  the Indian  Self-Government                                                               
policy; however, despite good  intentions, the federal government                                                               
was dictating  to tribes what  was best for  them, so it  did not                                                               
work.  During the Termination  Policy, the U.S. government wanted                                                               
to do away  with its relationship with tribes, but  this ended up                                                               
hurting  the U.S.  and  tribes alike.    Under President  Nixon's                                                               
leadership, it was  recognized that the best thing  is to "return                                                               
authority to local control."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:33:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON  brought attention to  slide 6,  "Domestic Dependent                                                               
Nations."   She  said  that  at the  beginning  of U.S.  history,                                                               
tribes  were  recognized as  powers  in  authority of  individual                                                               
governments, even  though they were  subject to the  authority of                                                               
the  U.S.  government and  widespread  oppression  and laws  were                                                               
inflicted on  the tribes.  In  1831, a few decades  before Alaska                                                               
became a territory  of the U.S. and only 55  years after the U.S.                                                               
came into  existence, the  U.S. Supreme  Court and  Chief Justice                                                               
John  Marshal  determined  that   Indian  tribes  were  "Domestic                                                               
Dependent  Nations."   She shared  the  quote on  slide 6,  which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ... a weaker power  does not surrender its independence                                                                    
     - its right to self-government  - by associating with a                                                                    
     stronger, and taking its protection.   A weak state, in                                                                    
     order  to  provide for  its  safety,  may place  itself                                                                    
     under  the protection  of  one  more powerful,  without                                                                    
     stripping  itself  of  the  right  of  government,  and                                                                    
     ceasing to be a state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:36:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH, moving  to  slide 7,  "The  Marshall Trilogy,"  cited                                                               
Article  I,  Section 8,  Clause  3,  of the  Constitution,  which                                                               
states Congress shall have power:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among                                                                       
     the several states, and with the Indian tribes;                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH said Congress is the  only entity that has the right to                                                               
terminate   the   rights  of   [Indian   tribes]   -  a   [state]                                                               
administration does  not.   She stated  that the  Marshal Trilogy                                                               
formed  the framework  of federal  Indian law;  there were  three                                                               
cases circa  1830 dealing with tribes  on the East Coast.   These                                                               
cases are reflected  on slide 7 as  follows [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Aboriginal  land claims:  Aboriginal people  retain the                                                                  
     rights  of  use  and  occupancy that  only  the  United                                                                    
     States  government can  settle aboriginal  land claims,                                                                    
     and  that  the  U.S.  has   a  legal  duty  to  protect                                                                    
     aboriginal  title  until  land  claims  are  officially                                                                    
     settled.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Tribal   Authority:  Tribes   are   nations  with   the                                                                  
     authority to  govern themselves.   The source  of their                                                                    
     authority  to govern  is  "inherent",  meaning that  it                                                                    
     comes  from  tribes  being self-governing  long  before                                                                    
     explorers and settlers came to the Americas.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Federal  Trust Responsibility:  The Federal  Government                                                                  
     has  a  responsibility  to  protect  Indian  lands  and                                                                    
     resources, and to provide  essential services to Indian                                                                    
     people.   This  comes from  the fact  that the  federal                                                                    
     government  took  away  the  vast  majority  of  Indian                                                                    
     lands, and in return promised to provide these things.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH indicated  that the Marshall Trilogy  is the foundation                                                               
on which the U.S. Supreme Court implements the Commerce Clause.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:39:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON reviewed  that in  1867  Russia sold  its claim  to                                                               
Alaska  to the  U.S.  through  The Treaty  of  Cession, aka  "The                                                               
Alaska Purchase,"  an excerpt of  which is  shown on slide  8, as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  uncivilized tribes  will be  subject to  such laws                                                                  
     and regulations as the United  States may, from time to                                                                    
     time,  adopt in  regard  to aboriginal  tribes of  that                                                                    
     country.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     -Treaty of Cession aka The Alaska Purchase                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON stated  that the  premise  of the  treaty was  that                                                               
Native  peoples were  uncivilized; thus  the colonial  government                                                               
had the  power to  "civilize them  with laws."   She  said Russia                                                               
considered  it  was  passing its  authority  over  Alaska  Native                                                               
tribes to the U.S.  She  stated, "What's key for our presentation                                                               
today is  the fact that  from the  very beginning, there  was the                                                               
awareness that tribes existed in Alaska."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:40:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH  turned to  slide 9, which  shows the  previously cited                                                               
Article I, Section 8, Clause 3.   She said the plenary control of                                                               
Congress  over Alaska  Natives is  evident in  the Alaska  Native                                                               
Claims Settlement  Act (ANCSA),  where Congress used  its plenary                                                               
power  to  extinguish  Alaska  Native   rights  to  "hundreds  of                                                               
millions of acres of land" and hunting and fishing rights.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH moved on to  slide 10, "Self-Determination," which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  only policy  that has  worked to  make significant                                                                    
     progress  in  reversing  otherwise  distressed  social,                                                                    
     cultural,   and    economic   conditions    in   native                                                                    
     communities.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The policy  of self-determination reflects  a political                                                                    
     equilibrium which  has held for four  decades and which                                                                    
     has withstood  various shifts in  the party  control of                                                                    
     Congress and the White House.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The first  major piece of  legislation, Public  Law 93-                                                                    
     638, the Indian Self-Determination Act of 1975.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Tribes identify  federal government  services that                                                                    
     they wish  to provide to  their own tribal  members and                                                                    
     contract  for  the  federal funding  to  provide  those                                                                    
     services themselves.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH said  the Alaska Tribal Health System is  based on this                                                               
Act.   She said  the relationship between  Alaska tribes  and the                                                               
State  of Alaska  is  still  in the  policy  era of  termination,                                                               
because although the courts  recognize tribes, the administration                                                               
sometimes tries to deny the existence  and rights of tribes.  She                                                               
shared,  "We  would  like  this  bill to  take  us  out  of  that                                                               
termination era ... and move  us into the self-determination era,                                                               
the only successful policy that has worked with tribes."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:44:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON  brought attention to  slides 11 and  12, "Executive                                                               
Order 13175 (2000),"  and said the executive order  was issued by                                                               
President Bill  Clinton on November  6, 2000.  Nine  years later,                                                               
on   November  5,   2009,  President   Barrack  Obama   issued  a                                                               
presidential  memorandum  directing  "the  agency"  to  submit  a                                                               
detailed plan of action detailing  how the agency would implement                                                               
the policies  and directives  of the executive  order.   She said                                                               
highlights of  the executive order  are on  slides 11 and  12, as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Established  regular  and meaningful  consultation  and                                                                    
     collaboration  with   tribes  in  the   development  of                                                                    
     federal polices that have tribal implications.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Recognizes that  the United States  has a  unique legal                                                                    
     relationship  with  Indian  tribal governments  as  set                                                                    
     forth  in the  U.S.  Constitution, treaties,  statutes,                                                                    
     Executive Orders, and U.S. Supreme Court decisions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Confirms  that the  U.S.  recognizes  Indian tribes  as                                                                    
     "domestic dependent nations under its protection."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Recognizes a trust relationship with Indian tribes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Recognizes  the   right  of  Indian  tribes   to  self-                                                                    
     government, tribal authority, and self-determination.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     All  federal  agencies  are to  respect  Indian  tribal                                                                    
     self-government and authority.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:46:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SINGH directed  attention to slide 14, "Brief  History of the                                                               
Relationship Between  the State of  Alaska and Tribes,"  on which                                                               
is  a  map depicting  the  indigenous  peoples and  languages  of                                                               
Alaska.   She moved  on to slide  14, "Previous  Alaska Position:                                                               
Tribes  Did Not  Exist."   She  talked about  litigation on  this                                                               
issue  that  tribes  continually   win  because  of  the  plenary                                                               
authority of the  Constitution and the clarity  of federal Indian                                                               
law.   She said when  tribes have  taken action to  protect their                                                               
children, the  state has  denied that  authority, which  has been                                                               
detrimental.  She said the  opportunity to educate law makers can                                                               
provide "an  out from this  [termination] era" and  CSHB 221(TRB)                                                               
would [assist in the effort].                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON brought  attention to  slides 15  and 16,  "Federal                                                               
Government  Response"  and  "Current  Position of  the  State  of                                                               
Alaska  on Recognition  of Tribes."    Slide 15  read as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department   of  Interior   (DOI)  -   The  "Sansonetti                                                                    
     Opinion"  (1993)  disagreed  with  the  Alaska  Supreme                                                                    
     Court's   historical  analysis   in  Stevens   Village,                                                                    
     observed  that for  over fifty  years Congress  and the                                                                    
     DOI treated  Alaska Natives as  members of  tribes, and                                                                    
     concluded  there were  federally  recognized tribes  in                                                                    
     Alaska.    Nine months  later,  DOI  issued a  list  of                                                                    
     federally recognized tribes in Alaska.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Congress - Federally Recognized  Tribe List Act of 1994                                                                    
     (1994 List  Act) directed the  BIA to publish  lists of                                                                    
     recognized tribes  which included  Alaska Tribes.   The                                                                    
     list is  published annually,  and all  subsequent lists                                                                    
     of  the  List  Act  have continued  to  include  Alaska                                                                    
     Tribes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON spoke to slide 16, which read as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Supreme  Court - "If  Congress or  the Executive                                                                    
     Branch  recognizes a  group of  Native  Americans as  a                                                                    
     sovereign  Tribe, we  'must  do the  same.'"   John  v.                                                                    
     Baker (1999).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     State  of  Alaska's  Executive   Branch  -  "[W]e  will                                                                    
     improve   government   -to-government  relations   with                                                                    
     Alaska  Tribes [...]."   Alaska  Admin.  Order No.  300                                                                    
     (2018).    See  also  Alaska  Department  of  law  2017                                                                    
     Opinion - Legal status  of tribal governments in Alaska                                                                    
     ("[T]here are  no unresolved legal  questions regarding                                                                    
     the  legal   status  of  Alaska  Tribes   as  federally                                                                    
     recognized tribal governments.")                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON  offered her  understanding  that  included in  the                                                               
committee packet was "a copy of  the Department of Law opinion in                                                               
2017 that has a thorough analysis, as well."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:51:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON  covered slide 17,  "HB 221," which read  as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Will bring the Alaska State legislature in-line with                                                                      
      the other two branches of State government regarding                                                                      
     the status of Alaska tribes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Will modernize the policy towards Alaska Native tribes                                                                     
     by officially moving the State legislature out of the                                                                      
     Termination Era and into the Self-Determination Era.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Create the potential for the State of Alaska to lead                                                                      
     the country in creation of State-tribal relations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON commented  on the strength of the  state and tribes,                                                               
and she said there is so much  that can be done by establishing a                                                               
partnership.   In  response to  Representative Claman's  previous                                                               
question about  gaming, she said  federal law requires  states to                                                               
pass  their  own laws  allowing  tribes  to  [run] gaming.    She                                                               
predicted that  Alaska tribes  and the  State of  Alaska together                                                               
would "show  the rest of  the country ...  what can be  done when                                                               
the state and the tribes work  together."  She spoke of elevating                                                               
tribal  communities in  poverty, the  justice system,  and public                                                               
safety.    In  conclusion  of the  PowerPoint  presentation,  she                                                               
opined that  CSHB 221(TRB) would  stimulate conversation  to that                                                               
end.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:54:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS asked  for  more detail  regarding                                                               
how  CSHB 221(TRB)  would result  in Alaska  being the  leader of                                                               
other  states  in state/tribal  relations.    He further  queried                                                               
which state  is currently the leader  in this area and  what laws                                                               
are on the books that make it so.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:54:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SINGH  responded that  she  does  not have  the  information                                                               
regarding  which states  have passed  "recognition"  bills.   She                                                               
said  she knows  there are  tribes that  have not  been federally                                                               
recognized  but whose  state legislatures  recognize  them.   She                                                               
reiterated that Alaska  has a long history  of litigation between                                                               
its administration and its tribes.   States that do not have that                                                               
long history  of litigation  have partnerships  in areas  such as                                                               
fishing and public safety -  Washington State being an example of                                                               
the latter.  She  said she would have to find  out which state is                                                               
currently in the lead on recognition of tribes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:56:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON  added that Alaska  has 229 recognized tribes  - the                                                               
most of any state  in U.S. - so, "by default,"  if the state were                                                               
to build  on what is already  in place, such as  the Tribal Child                                                               
Welfare Compact, then it could become the leader among states.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:57:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  expressed  his  appreciation  for                                                               
CSHB 221(TRB).  He said he  would like to know whether the number                                                               
of tribes in  Alaska has changed since the 1994  Act.  He further                                                               
queried  as  to  which  tribe  had  been  "omitted  by  DOA"  and                                                               
established  by Congress  as a  federally recognized  tribe under                                                               
the List Act.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON replied  that the List Act has  been published since                                                               
1994, and she  would have to research to find  out how the Alaska                                                               
tribe numbers may have changed and which tribe had been omitted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:59:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TRUITT proffered that Central  Council Tlingit & Haida Indian                                                               
Tribes of  Alaska was the entity  omitted from the list  and by a                                                               
special act  of Congress was  restored to  the list.   He offered                                                               
his understanding that the list has remained at 229 ever since.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:00:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOLLY HANDLER, Child Welfare Attorney,  Central Council Tlingit &                                                               
Haida Indian Tribes  of Alaska ("Tlingit &  Haida"), Alaska Legal                                                               
Services Corporation  (ALSC), relayed that  she has been  a staff                                                               
attorney with  ALSC for the past  14 years, and in  the last year                                                               
has  been  doing full-time  Indian  Child  Welfare Act  work  for                                                               
Tlingit  & Haida.   She  said she  would give  a presentation  on                                                               
tribal litigation.   She  spoke about  a timeline  spanning about                                                               
150 years since  the Alaska Purchase.  She said  during this time                                                               
the  tribal  litigation  in  Alaska   has  been  an  anomaly  and                                                               
"recognition of tribes in Alaska has been the norm."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANDLER said it is  remarkable that despite on-going attempts                                                               
over  the last  150 years  to assimilate  indigenous populations,                                                               
terminate  tribal  identity,  and resist  recognition  of  Indian                                                               
people  as such,  there has  been  a recognition  that tribes  do                                                               
exist.    They  are  recognized   under  federal  law,  and  were                                                               
recognized under territorial law  and since statehood under state                                                               
law.  She said CSHB 221(TRB)  will help people come to terms with                                                               
the  fact that  "there are  differences in  the histories  of the                                                               
people  of Alaska."    In  other states  where  tribes have  been                                                               
recognized,  state  governments have  been  able  to build  state                                                               
tribal commissions  and working groups  so that state  and tribal                                                               
courts can pool  resources.  In Maine, tribes and  the state work                                                               
together through  a Truth and  Reconciliation Commission  to deal                                                               
with the state's history of "removing children."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:04:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANDLER directed  attention to  the aforementioned  timeline                                                               
[included in  the committee packet], entitled  "Tribal Litigation                                                               
in Alaska," which  lists the following points.   [The information                                                               
below is  excerpted from the  timeline, with some  formatting and                                                               
punctuation changes.]                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Over the  past 153  years, recognition  of sovereign                                                                    
     Alaska Native Tribes has been the norm                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Recent  legal battles fighting recognition  have been                                                                    
     a painful and expensive aberration                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? Federal  and Alaskan authorities have  recognized the                                                                    
     existence  of  Alaska  Native  Tribes  as  independent,                                                                    
     self-governing political groups via:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     o 1867 Treaty                                                                                                              
     o   Early  1900s   federal  reserves,   allotments  and                                                                    
     townsites                                                                                                                  
     o 1930s Indian Reorganization Act                                                                                          
     o  Public Law  280 extension  of state  jurisdiction to                                                                    
     Indian Country in Alaska                                                                                                   
     o  1970s inclusion  of Alaska  Native  Tribes in  ICWA,                                                                    
     Indian  Self-Determination   and  Education  Assistance                                                                    
     Act, Indian Financing Act                                                                                                  
     o  Creation  of  corporate   entities  in  addition  to                                                                    
     governmental entities in ANCSA                                                                                             
     o 1990s Interior and Congressional Lists                                                                                   
     o Kaltag  Adoption Case: sovereign tribal  authority to                                                                    
     adjudicate adoption of tribal citizen children                                                                             
     o John v. Baker: sovereign tribal authority to                                                                             
     adjudicate custody                                                                                                         
     o   Tanana/Parks:   sovereign   tribal   authority   to                                                                    
     adjudicate child protection                                                                                                
     o T&H Child Support: sovereign tribal authority to                                                                         
     adjudicate child support                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANDLER said  the  Treaty of  Cession  does not  distinguish                                                               
between tribes  in Alaska  and those  in the  Lower 48;  they are                                                               
treated  as   "self-governing  political  groups   with  inherent                                                               
sovereignty to decide their own  affairs."  Indigenous people are                                                               
citizens of their tribal government,  their state government, and                                                               
their federal  government.   She noted that  the Acts  related to                                                               
federal  reserves,  allotments,  and townsites  treat  tribes  in                                                               
Alaska as  tribes and  would not have  been possible  without the                                                               
recognition of  Alaska tribes as  sovereign governments.   In the                                                               
1930s there was  federal recognition of tribal  marriage laws, as                                                               
well  as the  Indian Reorganization  Act (IRA),  which recognized                                                               
that tribes in Alaska have the  same rights as those in the Lower                                                               
48 to  establish tribal constitutions,  work through  policies of                                                               
self-determination and  economic development,  and be  treated as                                                               
"fathering governments."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANDLER  said Public Law 280  was passed in the  1950s, often                                                               
cited  by anti-tribal  advocates  as "a  reason  to think  tribes                                                               
ceased  to exist  in  Alaska."   Public  Law  280 extended  state                                                               
jurisdiction  over Indian  country  in Alaska.    She said,  "You                                                               
can't have Indian  country unless you have  sovereign tribes, and                                                               
so what Public  Law 280 did is  yet reaffirm ... that  we do have                                                               
sovereign tribes in  the state of Alaska."  Ms.  Handler said the                                                               
Acts specifically refer to Alaska  Native tribal government.  All                                                               
the  Acts from  the early  1900s through  the 1970s  specifically                                                               
recognize village and other tribal  governments.  She stated that                                                               
despite the overt racism  and institutionalized discrimination in                                                               
this period,  where children  were removed  from their  homes and                                                               
sent  to   boarding  schools  and  there   was  state  sanctioned                                                               
discrimination  in  public  institutions, one  constant  was  the                                                               
recognition of tribal governments.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:07:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANDLER said  that after  the passage  of the  Alaska Native                                                               
Claims  Settlement Act  (ANCSA)  in  1971, anti-tribal  advocates                                                               
tried to  manipulate and  misinterpret ANCSA  to support  an idea                                                               
that tribes had  been extinguished in Alaska.  She  spoke of "the                                                               
Nenana  case" in  1886 where  the village  council had  asked the                                                               
state court to transfer a  child protection proceedings case from                                                               
state to  tribal court.   She said this  case and so  many others                                                               
are about Native  villages trying to protect  their children from                                                               
abuse, neglect, and  harm.  She pointed out that  the majority of                                                               
Alaska communities,  including Nenana, do not  have state courts.                                                               
In  the Nenana  case, she  said, anti-tribal  advocates litigated                                                               
against the tribes to say that  because they are without land, in                                                               
large part, they  have lost their governing  authority over their                                                               
citizens.   She said from  the late '80s  to the early  '90s, the                                                               
state court system agreed that  there was something in ANCSA that                                                               
implicitly  terminated  the  existence of  tribal  government  in                                                               
Alaska.  She said that  "the Stevens Village" case "affirmed that                                                               
attitude."   She  talked about  the John  v. Baker  case where  a                                                             
disgruntled father did  not like the tribal  court's decision and                                                               
took his case  to state court; the Alaska  Supreme Court reviewed                                                               
the history  and the  List Act, reversed  the decisions  from the                                                               
Nenana  and  Stevens  Village  cases,  and  found  that  "ANCSA's                                                               
experiment of resolving land  claims through economic development                                                               
did nothing  to distinguish tribal government  in Alaska"; tribes                                                               
still exist and are able and  have the authority to protect their                                                               
own children and  families.  She said in the  John v. Baker case,                                                               
both  the State  of Alaska  and  the U.S.  Department of  Justice                                                               
issued amicus  briefs in support  of the  tribe.  She  said there                                                               
was  a millennium  agreement that  followed  up on  that, and  it                                                               
tried  to  "delve   into  the  practicalities  of   how  we  have                                                               
government to government  relations in Alaska."  On  the heels of                                                               
that agreement was an issuance  of new policies and procedures in                                                               
the  state's   Office  of   Children's  Services   to  coordinate                                                               
protective services  in the state with  limited resources through                                                               
cooperation  and the  pooling of  resources.   She indicated  the                                                               
hope  was that  this type  of litigation  was done;  however, the                                                               
Reinke's opinion  in 2004 "tore  up" all  the work that  had been                                                               
done  by  the  Office  of Children's  Services  with  tribes  and                                                               
started a  new wave of  litigation in Alaska against  the state's                                                               
own people.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANDLER named  further  cases:   the  Tanana  case, a  child                                                               
protection  case in  which tribal  government  sought to  protect                                                               
abused and  neglected children in  their community;  another case                                                               
in which a tribal government sought  to approve the adoption of a                                                               
child  in a  community  where there  was not  access  to a  state                                                               
court; the Tlingit & Haida Child  Support case, in which ALSC was                                                               
involved and  the Native  American Rights  Fund issued  an amicus                                                               
brief about the state recognizing  tribal child support orders to                                                               
ensure  that  "there's  family  responsibility  for  families  in                                                               
Alaska"; and the Simon v.  Parks case, which was about protecting                                                             
a child  from violence in the  home.  All these  litigations were                                                               
painful  and  costly, Ms.  Handler  said.   Tribal  members  were                                                               
coming to  court where their  existence was not  even recognized.                                                               
The  State of  Alaska  lost  all the  cases  and  it damaged  the                                                               
state's reputation  nationally and with  its own people,  as well                                                               
as hurting the state's finances.   She said the state lost out on                                                               
opportunities  for a  variety of  federal grants  for states  and                                                               
tribes  cooperating, to  work on  matters  related to  education,                                                               
child  welfare, transportation,  education, law  enforcement, and                                                               
healthcare,  because  it focused  all  its  energy on  litigating                                                               
against tribes.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:15:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANDLER  concluded  by  stating  that  CSHB  221(TRB)  would                                                               
benefit  Alaska by  committing  the  state to  follow  a path  of                                                               
cooperation with  tribes instead of litigating  against them; and                                                               
to choose a path to pursue  opportunities to work with tribes "to                                                               
fill in gaps in the state  where we need assistance" and "to move                                                               
forward in creative and exciting ways."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:16:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN announced that HB 221 was held over.                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 221 Background Material Tribal Litigaiton in AK.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Background Information President-Nixon Address on Indian affairs 7.8.70.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Background Information Tribal Self Determination at the Crossroads 2006.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Fiscal Note.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Index of Supporting Materials.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Letter of Support ATU 2.24.20.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Letter of Support NPA 2.19.2020.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Presentation Community and Regional Affairs 2.18.2020.pptx HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Presentation Community and Regional Affairs 2.18.2020.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Sponsor Statement 2.10.2020.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB221 Explanation of Changes Version S 2.20.2020.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB221 House CRA Committee Request for a Hearing 2.18.2020.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 A.PDF HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Background Information American Indian Self-Determination The Political Economy of a Successful Policy 11.2010.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Background Information Baker v. John 982 P.2d 738 (Alaska 1999).pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Background Information History Status and Future of Tribal Self Governance Under the ISDEAA 2015.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB 221 Background Information Legal Status of Tribal Governments in Alaska 10.19.2017.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221
HB193 Sponsor Statement.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 193
Tlingit & Haida Letter of Support - HB 193.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 193
HB193 Supporting Document UA Foundation Letter 1.24.20.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 193
HB0193A.PDF HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 193
HB193 - Hearing Request Memo HCRA.docx HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 193
HB 221 Nikki Pollock's Letter of Support.pdf HCRA 2/27/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 221